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tv   Book Discussion on The Expedition Trilogy  CSPAN  August 25, 2015 6:00pm-6:19pm EDT

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those over 55. are you retire, and if not, why not? caller: i had been a delivery driver for before years and a week suffered two ay i optic strokes that left me blind. some of the problems that we and unablee are sick to work like that is you don't you fy for unemployment so actually have no income unless any type of disability ulucky i policy which did. but then the wait to apply for disability is on average two years and the people make it on gled to an average two year wait with
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with absolutely no income. lucky i was approved in two months and after my six waiting period, i did receive my first social security check.lity host: we're running out of time. let me ask you one question if i may. heard from any of the candidates that sounds like it's addressing or they're addressing issues that effected your life? social as far as the security disability insurance rogram it seemed like the republicans as was said on the to ram earlier they voted get it reduced by 20% if they become in power. that's what they're going to do and people like myself will have a big income loss and that's the depend on.at we i'd like to see them address that. like to see them address people who shouldn't be on social security. it you're able to do any work you shouldn't be entitled to
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people that are claiming knee problems and back they ms that obviously could obviously do some type of work. >> we're out of time. for your call u and all of you for your calls. through see a beautiful picture capital with the scaffold on hey work on the dome summer evening. coming up tomorrow morning your on the o get back in conversation on "washington journal". historic sites to leaders on book v and american history t.v. on c-span3. with congress on summer recess c-span each day at 6:00 p.m. eastern. of y the lit terri life colorado springs. we start with jason lewis on his
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expedition, the true powered the human circumstance come navigation of the earth. > i didn't come from the background that would lend to lf it being an adventure do exand petted eugsz so my mom had different expect stations me and also i think because what i was proposing to do was ctually potentially quite dangerous. when i decided to do this i was 6 years old and it wasn't actually my idea. it was friend of mine's. gone to college together. one day he range me up and he oecd in ng for the brussels as an environmental
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scientist and he said i'm tired tired of and i'm sitting behind a desk. i thought environmental science ould be way more interesting than this and saving the planet. i'm just basically pushing -- runching numbers here on this computer. he said i thought of this idea. it's a grand adventure. see the llow us to world. and hasn't been done before to planetthe way around the using just human power, no fuels and no sales and at that time i had a window business in west london any o neither of us had prior experience of doing expeditions. research ng and the part of this trip was in a way of hardest part, two years planning preparation and we had o build a boat that would be strong enough to withstand the power of major storms when the atlantic, pacific
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and indian oceans but the boat so big, but it -- you couldn't have it so big that couldn't actually pedal the thing through the water. to took a year to build find some friends who were boat design and someone to this particular craft. lot of had to put a route, nto planning a finding visas for all the countries we were going to be through and also money. this no money to do thing. we wrote hundreds and hundreds and got zilch. mean we got some product bars. mars
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but we had no money. objectio okay we'll borery money and we'll see how far we can get and then we'll have to fundraise along the way, which is part of the reason why so expedition had to take long, 13 years in the end. >> we started off from the london, line in east all timedegree line of and space and it's a lovely building that has been there for several hundreds of years and first day was a disaster because we had committed the adventures. of e had lots of charts for our ocean crossings in the lat tlantic and pacific and we had celestal s for navigation and we got ourselves because we hadn't brought a
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at las. it was no less than 24,000 miles a point in o hit australia opposite to one that we had crossed on the atlantic complete a full circumstance come navigation. biking through europe and pedalling across the atlantic and across the u.s. and across the pacific to australia and up through end ough tphaoerb i can't and bicycling up through southeast and then nto india pedalling across the arabian sea to africa. it was really bad with the last was the from gentleman
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beauty in east africa and up through the middle east. it was quite hard because we funding.ave major we had to re -- we had to get to of the continent that, ay, when we got across to the u.s. and then once we pedal across the u.s. the boat stayed miami. and then we crossed the u.s. on bikes and roller blades and then just along the way we ound someone who might be able to help deliver it across and toe it across. made up tics had to be as we along. but that first few weeks when we bicycle our way down from london to portugal which is where we set off across atlantic we had some friends ctually who took the boat on a trailer down to portugal where it was first needed.
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we t was he -- some of it had to do our selves and other others -- sometimes we were lucky enough to have friends along and when we got to the u.s. here we arrived with absolutely no money. it was just the goodness of the people that we met in the local community starting off miami and fort lauderdale that really allowed us to carey stage.each and so it was really we were traveling blind. we really didn't know very often were going to be able to get our bikes across to the next ocean or he the boat across the particular crossing. we were it was all made up as you went along. so i ended up here in colorado roller blading across the u.s. as part of the onrney from miami to stprapb roller blades. sensibly steve more rode a bike. i wanted to do something spent so and we also long in this tynely little boat rossing the atlantic for 111
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days we needed a break from each other. other's throats by the time we got to miami. i had never roller blading before. but by the time i got to colorado i was managing to stay days at a time and i was entering this town called pueblo. t dn't know anything about pueblo. i was going to continue over the rockies and it was about five in he afternoon and i felt this incredibly sense of force hitting me from behind on the shoulder of this dual arriage way 4-lane highway and i split second later i was looking up at the sky and didn't and tried to ened stand up and then i noticed i as actually looking down and i noticed i was standing on no by an d i had been hit older gentleman who hit and ran
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my legs were shattered. six weeks p spending in hospital recouping from these 7.5 n legs and additional months recuperating. when t point, especially they told me my left leg might to be amputated below the knee i felt it might be time to go home. there in the ng hospital bed i thought if i started thing, well, maybe i do get to lose my left leg, then maybe there is a a i can carry on in wheelchair or something, pair it, no problem, right? maybe this is just ridiculous. after nearly drowning on the atlantic and now nearly dying being run over in colorado, maybe i'm putting my
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family through too much and it should be time to go home. nd that was when while my surgeon let me stay at his family's get away, this bison was and while i recuperating and i went around to local schools in my in pueblo and colorado springs and ended up teachers th local curriculum, it was in this educational outreach component to the project that i found the reason to keep going. part of the ardest trip was actually in the middle partner, ific and my steve, by this point had left got to ha ion and we ha after pedalling 2400 miles san francisco we got to
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hawaii 53 days pedalling and he ecided enough was enough and this is five years into this project that is supposed to take years. so i carried on alone and i remember crossing the middle of the pacific and i was out there month and i got into a current, where the water funneled back east wards towards central america. boxed in effectively by this counter current and i couldn't go south and i couldn't pedalling on was the spot for 2.5 weeks going owhere and every day i would pedal for 18, 19 hours and i would go to sleep for a few hours and then i was back where started from the previous morning. that was the most did he part of the whole trip. it's where i thought i had no motivation. cannot carry on. like when you're just like a hamster on a wheel going nowhere very, very hard to maintain
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your hope and your motivation. bottom line is i had to keep pedalling. i had to keep getting up and day ling on the spot every because if i went backwards in the counter current then there greater chance of me running out of food and water. t was a survival situation and that's what i guess pulled me through. >> land ahoy! ou probably can't see it there in the camera, but just on the there's a tiny little ribbon of black. we made it! woo! question to d answer what was my favorite stop. favorite part of the world. you know what though, i have to say, some parts of the world that i was expecting to be really badly or that i
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was expecting people would -- -- like a western a ntry i was expected to get hard time, i found it completely to be the case. for example riding through north where of course it's predominantly muslim, they have -- the government is sort of on the blacklist as far the u.k. and america and i was -- i thought this could parts of the hose world where i'm in the back of a having my head cut off. and that's what people tell you. to 're like, you don't want into indonesia but going hrough sudan they were the nicest. i think probably think the nicest people that i met of all countries that i went
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through. and their sense of hospitality was incredible. to worry about where i was going to sleep at night. never had to worry about where i food.ing to get people were always hauling me me withir homes feeding tea and cakes and only thing i was going to die out there was overeating. really changed my perception of sudan. the other countries were like that. like indonesia where the people delightful. and so, indonesia was a great and i think ine north sudan. >> this is home for now. >> i was out there until i completed it. this is one of the things that this expedition different to a lot of expeditions where and climb a
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mountain and cross an ice cap they come back and write a book and do a speaking series and film, whatever, and they go and do something else. back to 16 expeditions back without going home. hat actually was one of the aspects.ryiest journey. after 5 or 6 years of this being on the road all the time, you a perspective of what -- what nd of what you left behind, and all -- those fundamental kind of things that we perhaps take for grand when part of a community, relationships that last more than just a few weeks. got tired of pedalling into a town and making friends few weeks or a month or so have to move on and say you're having to good-bye and got sick of saying
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good-bye. the ve me a perspective on value of community and the value value of stab and and it all those good things that i now have having finished the trip. did the journey. because i'm one of those people in my earlier years in twenties and thirties i needed to get out and i needed travel. i felt quite nomadic. both worlds t of and now i really appreciate not traveling. i do this again? it's an impossible question to of course because what i know now in terms of having gone beend the world and having lucky enough to have done a trip like this -- it's not for but i feel course quite privileged to have seen slow pace that human power travel biking, ayller blading,

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